Welcome To The Forge – Membership Call #9
The Forge: Exclusive Members’ Training Session June 25, 2025
Live Q&A with Syd Michael
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What’s happening? What’s happening? Wednesday, 11 a.m. Eastern Standard Time.
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We’ve got some people jumping in. Guy Bartstrom, good morning.
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We’re going to talk about a couple of things today.
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Hey, Reggie. Everybody jump in here. Mr. Leith, how are you doing, sir? Steve?
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How many people got paid a commission in the last few weeks?
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There was a lot of money thrown out.
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You did? Yes, sir, you did, Thomas.
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Finally, right? Some of you. So we had the one guy who knocked it out of the park. Put a phone call in to him to congratulate him. I never heard back from him. I hope we have the same cell phone number. Yep, Reggie. Good. Steve, you put in the work, buddy. Time to get paid. Yeah. A few more people jumping in and we’ll—we’ll get started. Let’s go ahead and talk a little bit about what’s in the news right now. Right? Are more people going out this week? I think they’re going out every week, to be honest with you. I know they were trying to slow it down to once every two weeks. Brian does have something going on. I think he’s leaving today to go out of town for some stuff. But, um, you know, dude, that guy’s on his phone 24/7. That doesn’t mean he’s gone just because he’s not in Peachtree City or in—but doesn’t mean he’s out of the loop. That’s for sure.
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I mean, one of the first things to look at—you know, I’ve opened this “investing in yourself and investing in the market” bag a little bit. This is not financial advice.
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I’ll make that very, very, very clear, but you probably want to listen to me.
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And I’m going to show a couple of things today, real quick. Notice, watch, always watch the market cap.
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And what’s the other? I told everybody to keep an eye on fear and greed, right? We’re still in fear. We’re still in fear. You know, regardless of how you feel about it politically, what happened in Iran and what’s going on—when you’re looking at it with an investment mindset, that was a gift. Why was it a gift? Well, because everything was dumped. A lot of things were dumped. Bitcoin went down to 99,000. I’m going to tell you—I bought half a Bitcoin that day. It’s been 50 freaking grand because I know that it’s going up. Right? When you see that fear, as long as you’re in that fear market, don’t be afraid to invest in your positions. That’s the best time. That’s—that’s—that’s when it’s on sale. Right?
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I also want to point out a couple of other things real quick. Bitcoin hit a hundred and eight thousand today. Right? So that little bit of an additional position that I put in—yeah. Does it pain me because I was buying it at eighteen and seventeen and twenty, and thirty thousand? Yeah, it pains me to pay $99,000 for it, but I’m just in that position.
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I’m already up, you know, eight or ten percent. Why? Because anytime the world’s freaking out and everybody’s knee-jerk reacting, it’s a gift.
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It’s a gift to you. It’s easy. Be patient.
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Every week, the media is going to create some sort of turmoil, and people are going to overreact—especially the market—and it’s going to give you all an opportunity to grab a position. Right? Don’t—don’t FOMO into things. Be patient. You want to be like a coiled snake ready to strike. Okay. I told all of you to be paying attention to Circle last week, right? And the main reason why with Circle—right, the main reason with Circle is—they’re in control of a lot of the stablecoin, which is in the Genius Bill. Right? Pay attention to the Genius Bill. Circle IPO’d two weeks ago for $31. Now, I didn’t get allocated very many shares, but I did get a small position, and I have been watching the dips and adding to it. Unfortunately, it hasn’t dipped. But now it has retreated a bit. I want to—I want to show you some proof and what you can do, right? And what would have been the difference? The second thing I want to point out—Coinbase. Notice that it paid its dividend on May 29th, and it does pay monthly. Right? Paid first, then 29th. Today is what—the 25th? That means we’re coming up. In the next couple of days, it’s going to pay another dividend. That’s a nine-dollar and sixty-eight-cent stock that you can get 65, 73—I think the month before that was 46. A couple of months before that was over a dollar.
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It’s easy money. It’s all in being educated, watching, and paying attention.
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Here’s another thing about Coinbase. It’s been erratic. Look at it in the last five days.
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Why?
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Because we’re going into the bull cycle and Bitcoin’s recovering, and it causes Coinbase to—Now, on this ETF that I’ve pointed y’all toward, right?
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It’s an option income strategy where they’re using options.
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What do options love?
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How do you make money in options?
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What drives the options market?
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What are you waiting for?
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Because it can go sideways forever.
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It can also get puffed full of hot smoke.
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I’ve seen stock go up and options go down because there’s too much speculation going on.
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Well, what do options love?
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What makes an option hit hard?
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Up or down?
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When you see erratic movements, when you see high volatility, that is an option’s dream.
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Dream, right?
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And seeing that it’s gone up over 37 percent in the last five days, how do you think this dividend is going to be this month?
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It’s going to be a monster.
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It’s going to be a monster.
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Watch.
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I bet it’d be 60 to 60 cents to a dollar, maybe more.
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Now, simple math.
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So, some of you may have been overwhelmed by investing in simple math.
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If I told you, give me $9, I’ll hold your $9.
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I owe you that $9.
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And you can make $0.70 for every $9 bill you give me.
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How many of you would jump into this program?
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In addition to that, if I told you over the last year, you put $10,000 in, you would have $12,677 at the end.
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It’s proven history.
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A lot of you need to pay attention to CONI right now, C-O-N-I.
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It’s a Coinbase Option Strategy, an ETF.
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Let me point out a couple of other things.
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This is what it was a week ago when we were talking about it, 806.
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What is it today?
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968.
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Now, I’m not the most brilliant mathematician in the world, but that looks like at least 16% to me, 16% plus a dividend. Does it take a genius to make money looking at that kind of stuff?
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So in reality, if you gave me $8 bills a week ago, I would be handing you back almost $10 bills now, plus you got a dividend coming down the pipe.
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Listen, the only reason why I stress some of this stuff on y’all is because the freedom that it creates when your money starts outperforming you and everything around you—it’ll change your attitude. You’ll stop doing **** you don’t want to do. You’ll start setting parameters, boundaries around you because you ain’t gotta do it. You don’t have to unless it’s a perfect scenario. You can say no. How many of you would like to have that freedom? It’s the worst thing about being a man—is having to say okay to things you don’t want to do. **** that, man. We all work too hard. We’re all good guys. We deserve better. Reward yourselves.
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And you got Uncle Syd. I wish I had Uncle Syd sitting there holding my hand.
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It wouldn’t have cost me hundreds of thousands of dollars to learn this stuff.
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That’s right. I have not always been right, and I’ll be wrong again.
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But I learned a lot by trial and error and moving forward. And you know, nobody wants to buy into something and then the bottom drops out of it and you lose your ****. But for sure, that’s why I’m showing y’all conservative, good timing, the right positions. You’ll have a little bit of ebbs and flows, expansions and contractions, but overall, a year from now, you’ll say, “Dude, thank you so much.” All right, the quick, quick, quick—listen, and all your buddies telling you to go buy XRP—start listening to Uncle Syd.
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Tell me you ain’t got a buddy who called you about XRP yet.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Anyways, let me show this.
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What was the Circle last week when I told you?
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- What’s it—what did it reach? It went up to 290. Now it’s pulled back to around 211 or 203 right now. Let’s see. Let me look. Let me just look so I can be accurate here. It’s pulled back to 207 right now. Now’s the time to patiently grab a position, right? It’s lost some of its hype, but it doesn’t mean the bill’s not going through.
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It doesn’t mean that we’re not going to have to start using stablecoin in our banking system. Fiat currency will not last. It never has.
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There’s not one time in history it’s ever been successful.
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It’s a fact that you will lose all your money if you keep holding it in cash.
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You’re setting the corners of it on fire, and eventually, it’s all going to be ashes. That’s a fact.
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So right now, with Circle pulling back a little bit—going all the way up to 290, pulling back to 207 or whatever it’s at, I just said—it’s a good time to get a small position.
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Does it mean putting your whole backend into it?
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No, it means grab a position.
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If I plan on owning 50 shares, I don’t buy 50 shares out of the gate.
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I’ll buy 10 shares, and I’ll watch it for a couple of days, and then I’ll add 10 more shares.
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I’ll wait for the news to come out with some bull **** information.
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How the world’s going to end, and I’ll grab 20 more shares.
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Right. Don’t be the guy who goes and throws all 50 shares right out of the gate.
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And then it drops 20 percent.
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You freak out, sell it, and call your wife and tell her you’re sorry.
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You tried to be a trader.
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Don’t be that guy. All right.
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Remember, watch the Genius Bill.
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Look, just a week ago—105. We’re at 108 today, and it dropped to 99.
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All right, because I opened the bag, I have to talk about investing.
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I know not all of you are involved in it, and not all of you are doing it, and that’s okay.
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That’s okay.
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We all have different strategies.
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I told every one of you, if you need help, to please reach out to me directly because, depending on your strategy, you might change your positions a little bit.
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But everything that I’m giving you—guaranteed results—is the closest.
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There’s no guarantee. Nothing’s guaranteed. It’s the closest to a conservative guarantee that I can share with you, and it’s what’s hot right now. Okay. How many people have picked up any in the last week? Bought any? Bought any of the ETFs I’ve been talking about with high dividend yield? Just curious. All right, a few of you. Okay, good. All right. Well, you’ll get—listen—whether you buy one share or a hundred shares or a thousand shares, you’ll be able to at least get a taste of it and see what, you know, what it feels like, you know, what’s going to happen. And then you’re going to go through FOMO and say, “Man, I thought I should have—shouldn’t have bought a hundred shares. I just made 500 bucks. If I had bought a thousand shares, I’d have made five thousand dollars.” That’s normal, right? Um, anyway, good. All right, let’s move on a little bit and talk a little bit about business, right?
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So I want to ask each of you, because I know we deal with both, and I work with a guy.
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But yeah, I told y’all I work in my buddy’s gun store on the weekends and stuff and help him out.
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His stepson was asking me some stuff, and he’s like, “Man, I just—you know, I’m kind of an introvert.” Right?
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How many of you would consider yourself an introvert?
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How many would consider themselves extroverted?
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Uh-oh, Donald says no sound. Can you hear me?
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Extrovert. All right, good.
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Paul, when you tell me, do you think you’re an introvert or an extrovert?
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Extrovert, good, all right.
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Right now we’re about 60% extroverted, which is fricking awesome.
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Not that you’re at a disadvantage with an introvert, but you gotta learn how to maneuver.
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I need some more responses. I want to get a better feel of everybody here. Right now, we have about eight of you who have responded. Extrovert—boy, Reggie, good. I would say I consider myself an extrovert. However, there are times I get introverted. I mean, I do. Sometimes I get a little bit introverted. Let me ask you: what do you think makes you… depends on the topic? Same here, same here. All right, we’re gonna ask some honest questions here in a second. How many people just love people? Love people—introverted or extroverted? I feel you, Brian. Maybe we just love people, think they’re fascinating, and love meeting a stranger. I would say when I was younger, I was a little bit more fascinated by people, right?
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I would say when I was younger, I was a little bit more fascinated because I wanted advice and direction.
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And I don’t think I got much of it. My dad was very super overly-the-top conservative.
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So, you know, I was looking for somebody to kind of show me the roadmap that he wasn’t, right?
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So I think I was a little bit more interested in people.
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But now I talk to a lot of people, and it seems to me—sometimes I find myself going down that rabbit hole where I feel like everybody’s got kind of the same story, the same complaints, the same problems, and they’re all self-created and nobody’s taking accountability.
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And it drives me bonkers. Drives me nuts, right?
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I like to get it done.
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I like to surround myself with get-it-done people, right?
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I can’t stand flea-flickers, is what I call it.
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Like in Tampa, when I would ask somebody to do something, then I had to go back a week later and re-ask again if they did something, and I’d find out they’re like, “Oh no, I thought so-and-so did it.”
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Okay.
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So you dropped the ball, right?
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And that would frustrate me a bit.
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You would see the bad side, right?
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Which I don’t like to do.
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There’s a secret—if you do find yourself introverting a little bit, there’s a secret to it, right, that I learned through my sales skills. And regardless, regardless if you’re introverted or extroverted, right, any—you know, rule number one: anytime two people meet, a sale is made. What position do you take in the best light when talking to a client or meeting somebody, or selling someone? What’s one of the first things you want to establish? What is it? Yin and yang, right? Givers and takers. Control. There’s someone who’s going to control the conversation, no matter what conversation it is.
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Now, when you get wise, and when you get better as you get older, you can have a mutual conversation, a respectful conversation.
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But if you’re closer, you want to establish a little bit of control, or at least make a presence known, so you can leverage your power. That’s the truth in sales, right?
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And you can—exactly, Thomas—you can control the direction that it’s going.
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Now, this does come with a little bit of wisdom. But the reason why I bring this up is my buddy’s son that I was talking with—I was like, you know, I was explaining to him, it’s, you know, it’s proper to talk to anybody within 10 feet of you. If somebody comes within 10 feet, you acknowledge them, right? I would say that’s ethics and manners. But to an introvert, probably, you know, scares them to death, right? They would rather—they would rather literally go jump off a cliff than acknowledge somebody sometimes, right? So, being an introvert, you need to get in the habit of practicing setting the pace, right? You want to practice setting the pace of your conversation. Now, how would you do that as an introvert? What are you afraid they’re going to ask? What are you fearing? You’re fearing the conversation, right? Are you fearing maybe they’re—I don’t know—big, angry, hateful, mean people? Are you fearing rejection, even right? Well, even more reason why you should acknowledge somebody that you’re speaking to. Be the first act. In any position, you’re better off to put them on the back of their heels than to be put on the back of your heels. And by initiating the conversation, you’re setting the pace, so you are in control. So one thing that I like to say—and people that know me well laugh about it—”Well, hey, how are you doing?”
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“I’m doing okay.” Nobody says more than that. Well, I’m not gonna be a guy that’s just doing okay. I want to go ahead and let them know that I’m here, that I’m showing up, I’m here to play. So I, by default, always respond “Awesome.” Always. And sometimes I’ll hear, “Whoa, awesome? That must be nice.” Right? What’s happening when you acknowledge somebody that way, and you hear something like that? What does somebody say when they go, “Whoa, awesome? That must be nice”? They’re taking a backseat to you, man, right? It tells you a lot about the person if they’re not, “Yeah, me too,” right? And you use a word as aggressive as “awesome” because nobody else will use that word. They’ll just say, “I’m doing okay” or “I’m doing good,” right? And if you kind of feel a little humorous, if you’re feeling—you know—like you want to break the ice with somebody, I’m going to give you another one that’s easy to say. When somebody says, “How are you?” If I’m feeling comical a little bit, right, I’ll say, “If I were any better, vitamins would take me every morning.” And the reason why I say that is, one, most people will chuckle and laugh and go, “That’s a good one,” right?
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But two, if they don’t, it tells you right out of the gate this person’s not even listening to me. Right? If you ain’t got their ears, you ain’t got—you ain’t got nothing. And it’s nice to know that right out of the gate with somebody. It could tell you how much time you should spend with them. It could tell you if you need to re-clarify your existence with them, right? If they’re not listening to you, is it the right time to pitch them? I said, you start going into your pitch, not. They’re not even listening. That means it’s time to start asking questions. Time to start asking questions. I’ve said this a hundred thousand times, and I know a lot of you are closers also, so you know this. But a true closer asks questions. A true closer listens. A true closer doesn’t always dominate the conversation. Doesn’t always dominate the direction of everything going, right? When it’s the person’s idea—it’s their idea—they’ll commit behind it. You’re telling them what to think, and some people are just going to kind of tune you out, right? Open-ended questions are always a great thing. So let me give you an example: “Hey, how are you doing?” “I’m doing okay. How are you?” “I’m awesome—always!” “Well, good. Let me ask you something—why are you only doing just okay? What can I do to help you?” Right? “Oh man, just okay? What’s going on, you?”
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“Well, you know, blah blah blah blah blah.” It might be their kids. It might be that they can’t get advertising to work. Might be sales are down. Might be—you don’t know what you’re going to hear. But it’s time to listen. Because no matter what comes out of their mouth at that point, you’re going to start establishing a relationship and potentially a bond. Potentially a bond. Because chances are—in my experience—and I’ve talked to a lot of people high and low and in the back alleys and the front alleys, in the front street, in the back end, right?
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I’ve talked to a lot of people.
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Let me tell you the truth.
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We’re all a lot alike, right?
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And a lot of times, when somebody starts sharing with you whatever’s wrong, you probably have a little bit of experience or have been in that place before.
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And therefore, you can then size up your opponent or your person that you’re with and kind of understand where their head’s at.
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Now, if they start telling you whatever it is that’s wrong or why they’re just okay, what do you do?
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What do you do at that point?
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You tell them how it’s happened to you before, and you know how that feels, and you think, “That’s bad? Listen to this.” That’s what we naturally want to do. “Oh man, I’ve had that happen before. Man, let me tell you what happened to me once,” right? But in reality, if you’re truly trying to attract people, you don’t want to top their story. You want to listen to their story, right? You want to listen to their story, and you want to hear what they say. You want to acknowledge to them, “Man, that must suck.” You have to give them some empathy or whatever it is. Or if they just say, “I’m just okay.” Well, “I just said okay,” right? They’re telling you everything at that point. Okay, so you just said okay, so you’re talking to me, not to me. That’s okay, right? Maybe he’s confessing to you that he’s an introvert. But you’ll—once you start paying attention to these things—I know they sound so minuscule at this point—but when you hone in… I’m talking about really practicing it with everybody. Practice it with your kids, practice it with your family, practice it with your friends, practice it with strangers—always.
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But when you start controlling your speech, controlling your response, and truly start controlling listening to people—dude, it will open doors that you didn’t know existed, and you’ll find that most people are a lot alike. A lot alike. Make sense? It’s a little deep. So maybe an extrovert, “When will we get the meat and potatoes of the new health insurance program?” Dude, so they made some progress with it last week.
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You know, I’m not—you know, that’s out of my bucket, right?
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Like, I can’t control when they launch.
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And I know Vanessa’s working on the back end, and that’s kind of what’s holding them up a little bit.
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I did talk to Tommy earlier, a few days ago. He called me and was excited about a couple of different things.
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You know, I can’t tell you the exact date, and I would be lying if I told you.
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I’d be lying if I told you, but I think so soon.
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I feel like it’s soon—someone, you know?
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I can’t—you know, I’m personally a pretty impatient person.
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So it’s everything I can do to be patient.
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Thomas, if it has, I’ve not been privy to it.
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They’ve not told me about it.
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I have asked Vanessa several times to create it.
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So we can just ask these questions abroad, and we all know what, you know, the question is what he asked: if they created a Facebook page for the four jets. Did I? Thousand percent agree—again,
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I can only request so many times on certain things, and—you know—it is what it is, and I apologize. Apologize. I’ll get us a Facebook page. How about that?
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I’ll just take responsibility for it. That’s the right thing to do. Ultra launch first—R&D and health—this is 100% a guess. I feel like the health thing is going to launch first, but I could be wrong.
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I hate to speak definitively like that when it’s not me controlling it because, you know, they’ll make me a liar.
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All right.
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All right.
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Are there any questions?
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Anything else?
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I’m going to create the Facebook page myself if I have to.
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What are some ways?
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Let me ask you this.
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You know, I gave you all my little secret ways.
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In what ways do you break the ice or set the pace to meet somebody new?
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Does anybody have any input or ways that you’ve done that have worked out over your years that maybe you could share some wisdom with us? Ask how and why they got into their biz. That’s a tell-all.
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Compliment them. Dale Carnegie, How to Win Friends. I agree. Sometimes, just a simple smile.
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I agree with you, Steve. “What’s your story?” Fewer questions, right?
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Having the patience to listen to somebody talk about themselves is a superpower. Some people don’t.
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But not having the patience to listen to somebody talk about themselves tells you a lot about the person listening. Very good.
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That’s good input.
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Has anybody started compiling a list of businesses they think will be players in tele-health? Yeah, me too. Yep, Guy. Good, good. Very nice. All right, good.
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I’m ready.
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I’m sitting on the sidelines right now—ready. Ready as I can be, to be honest. All right.
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Well, is there anything else that anybody wants to discuss or maybe has a question about? Okay. All right.
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Let me get the Facebook page handled. I was thinking about that the other day, too.
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I can’t believe it’s not already up. Are you investing through an IRA or similar?
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Yes, I have an IRA and also have individual investments. You should have an IRA. 100%.
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All right. All right. I’ll see everybody next Wednesday.
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Thank you for spending your time with me.
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I hope this opened up your mind a little bit to start consciously paying attention.
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And congratulations to you all who got in some of these positions I’ve been sharing with you.
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See you guys.